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Post by Chase on Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:30 pm

Just got some bad news today. Took my Vizsla chase to the vet today after seeing him limp on his back leg and was told he may have torn is cruciate ligament. Unfortunately because I have to research on everything, while looking up about it on the net there have been several arguments as to wether surgery is the right option. Some say you need immediate surgery while others are saying its unnecessary and 8 wks of restriction helps it heel. (Mind you itís very hard to keep a Vizsla restricted)

I am really confused as to what to do I donít like rushing into surgery regardless on if its for human or dog because you don't know the complications that will occur after (not to mention it costs a fortune but if it has to be done) but I donít want to make the wrong decision either and have my dog in constant pain.

Has anyone gone through this or have any advice they can offer? Should I just go for an x-ray first and take it from there. Just find that when Iím in the vet clinic I kind of get pushed into one direction and want to know all my options before I go back.
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Post by Guest on Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:54 pm

surgery and I think there are two options, dont go the cheaper option. If you dont fix it will happen again, there's obviously a weakness in his knee. But this is my opinion, I'm not a vet nurse or vet, I've just known a lot of big dogs that have gone through this. Smile

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Post by yapidiyap on Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:14 pm

Chase, I once found a Visla in my garage. It had escaped from it's home and was (I think) hit by a car. It was limping on it's back leg. I took it to my vet (20 years ago) who said he felt binding the leg close to the body may cause the ligament to go back into it's correct shape and if this was not done fairly quickly after the accident the ligament stays stretched and won't go back to it's original size/shape requiring surgery. So that's what I did and after a week or so the binding was removed. The dog recovered and was fine with no problems. About 1 month after this the real owner did a leaflet drop in our street looking for her dog. I called her and she came and took the dog home. Beautiful natured dog, I was sad to see it go. Sad
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Post by Chase on Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:22 pm

Glad to here the dog recoverd yapi could you please explain more on how you bound his leg? Was there any other restrictions you did on while the leg was bound and afterwards.
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Post by yapidiyap on Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:20 pm

The leg was pushed tight against the body and bound to it in that position. He was unable to move around and had to be lifted and helped to go to the toilet. The rest of the time he recuperated on my bed. I can't remember the details such as the exact time that the leg was bound. Could of been 1-2 weeks, no sure as I said it was 20 years ago.
Sorry I can't help more. Only, I would try that first. If it doesn't work then go for the surgery.
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Post by Cessnock on Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:34 pm

dont dr google...hubby gets a cold looks up his symptoms & suddenly ends up with cancer :-O

Vet...& if still in doubt or dont have a good relationship with yours go seek a second opinion ...ask round & find out who is the best vet is in your town & take it from there.

In my experience Most do seem to get the op done...but be warned that the other side is at high risk of going to..so after care, crating, on lead exercise, no ball playing is a must...You vet will give you all the info you need.

Best wishes & keep us updated

Oh have you asked your breeder who they recommend you should take the dog to ???

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Post by yapidiyap on Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:42 pm

Let me rectify something, I most definitely didn't mean for you to do it yourself. No, never. I meant that when I took the dog to my vet he told me the options and there were only 2 then. He was the one who bound the leg. Not me!! Sorry, I didn't make myself clear enough.
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Post by Chase on Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:26 pm

Thanks for your help guys. I did understand yapi that you were not the one who bound the leg just wanted to know what the process involved. I am always reluctant to take the surgery route because I have had bad experiences myself.

I will be taking him for second referral. Hard to find a good vet here but either take him to the vet that my grooming trainer went to or to the Lort Smith in the city.

For the time being I have restricted the space he is in so there is less risk of him causing more injury and started him on glucosamine. Not a cure but a start till I make my decision. I will keep you updated and thanks again for your help.

This was one thing a tried so hard to avoid when he was a pup and he gets it at the age of three. Cess I am the same as your husband the internet can be a curse sometimes. At least he didnít study micro biology I did and I had to stop because it made me more paranoid
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Post by Sinner on Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:30 pm

Chase....my son's dog...a large mastiff x staffie has just had the same thing happen. Playing frisby....limpimg....vet says cruciate ligament. He advised rest only at present but she is a strong , active dog and they have 2 babies ( human) at present so they cant keep her locked in samll space all the time with their current yard configuration. It has been a month and she has not been out for walks and she is still favouring the back leg. I thought they might need to operate but then I will have to do post operative care to confine her....crate, small area etc.Does anyone else know if rest can cure it as I would be willing to bring her to my place to help the confinement to "fix" her....
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Post by gumsgrooming on Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:04 pm

working at a vet we see lots of dogs with ruptured cruciate ligaments. Most require surgery, some take the rest option but rarely does that work. At my clinic we offer 2 surgical options and the local surgical specialist offers another. Each surgery has its pros and cons (and cost). My boss has lots of experience with cruciate surgery and im pretty sure we have an information handout on whats available and what to expect. If you give me an email address ill see if i can email it to you.

Having surgery quickly is good but not necessarily essential, we have clients wait for a month or so whilst they save the money. The dog is just kept comfortable on pain killers.

There is nothing wrong with getting a second opinion if your not happy with what the first vet has said. Smile

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Post by Chase on Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:40 pm

thanks gums i have sent you my email that will really help
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Post by gumsgrooming on Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:40 pm

Even though Chase has possibly sorted her issue, i thought i would post our info sheet on here for everyone. A little info never hurt anyone lol
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Post by Sinner on Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:58 pm

Thanks so much gums......I will pass this onto my son for Pepper.... Very Happy Very Happy
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Post by Yabba Dabba on Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:35 pm

If you are in NSW I would highly recomend Veterinary Specialist Centre Ph 9889800
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Post by Chase on Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:54 pm

Thanks yabba,
I'm from Melbourne. don't know if you read other post, but found out he has sciatica in his lower back. Everyone has been great help on here and I have a few alternatives I'm trying out hoping it will work out soon.
Thanks again for the suggestion
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Post by Susanne on Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:31 am

its an interesting debate really amongst the oldtime vets and the new, I have seen surgery on one leg then the other leg goes due to compensating the weight, then surgery on that. What I have found most common is that those that opted for rest and no surgery the leg has healed, sometimes the other one goes but rest will fix it.....we see alot of it in our sports but surgery being the option to get them back on the field asap.....its really common issue out here cos the farmers kelpie will do a cruciate jumping off the ute....they will fix with the correct rest (usually crated) but you would need to crate them even if they were operated on. One of my customers maltesteX did one then the other, both rested and you wouldn't know she had a problem.
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Post by Susanne on Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:32 am

oh, btw, if you opt for surgery, make sure the vet has done them before...some can botch it
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